Today on The Sword and The Trowel, Tom Ascol and Jared Longshore welcome Rob McCoy, Senior Pastor of Godspeak Calvary Chapel of Thousand Oaks (California), onto the show. They discuss the suffering that Pastor McCoy and his church have been enduring at the hand of the California government. How do Christians suffer well and contend for the faith against governmental tyranny? Are we willing to count the cost for Christ? Even if it means being fined weekly and going to jail? How should Pastors lead their churches during this critical moment in the United States? Is it just about a mask and social distancing, or are there bigger things at stake?